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Robyn Ryle's avatar

I'm glad you found something that worked for you. I don't think Dr. Sarno is snake oil. I heard this amazing interview on the Ezra Klein Show with Rachel Zoffness, who is a bona fide pain psychologist. She has all kinds of science to back up what Dr. Sarno is saying, in essence (she also talks about Dr. Sarno).

Science tells us that pain is physical, psychological and...wait for it...social. In other words, pain is complicated as fuck but also mostly located in our brains. And a lot of chronic pain can be lessened or resolved through changing our psychology and our social environment.

She has this fascinating story of the two nails. One construction worker jumps off a building onto a 7-inch nail. Goes right through his boot. He's in excruciating pain. Writhing and screaming. They take him to the emergency room. The nail missed his foot altogether--went between his toes. Did not puncture anything except his boot. But the pain he felt was REAL because his brain told him the nail had punctured his foot.

Second guy (trigger warning for ickiness)--working with a nail gun. It misfires. Ricochets off his jaw. He's fine. He has a mild headache and a toothache. Goes on with his life. A week later he says, "You know, I'm going to the dentist for this toothache." They do an X-ray and find the nail embedded in his face. His brain told him he was fine so he felt mostly fine.

So, yeah, pain is fucking complicated.

Here's the podcast:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/21/opinion/17eks-ezra-klein-podcast-rachel-zoffness.html

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Heidi Schauster's avatar

I’m a Somatic Experiencing Practitioner and your story makes so much sense. Thanks for sharing it with such humor.

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